Comments on: Some incomplete and swirling thoughts https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/05/03/some-incomplete-and-swirling-thoughts/ A Global Immersion Site Wed, 07 May 2025 19:21:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Steve Lindley https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/05/03/some-incomplete-and-swirling-thoughts/#comment-673 Wed, 07 May 2025 19:21:48 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=2226#comment-673 Thank you for your honest reflection, Chris, and for the internal work you are doing. I didn’t consciously recognize this reaction in myself until Elizabeth shared with us the news sources she regularly goes to. Suddenly I thought “Can I trust a news source that she trusts?” and an alarm went off in my mind telling me there is something to pay attention to within myself. I was instinctively suspicious of her opinion on this. There is definitely some growing for me to do there.

I also appreciate your thoughts on sin and your wonderings about the shift Boyle makes. I agree with you that naming everything we used to call sin “mental illness” is not accurate or helpful. I still regularly use the term “sin” as it is so ingrained in our Lutheran tradition, but over the years I have shifted to a different understanding of sin. Rather than the traditional understanding that we are all born awful, sinful creatures (“dung” as Luther describes it), I have come to believe that we are all created and born good, and our goodness is obscured by unprocessed, unhealed trauma, handed down from generation to generation. This has enabled me to (imperfectly) have more compassion and understanding for others and for myself.

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By: Kassandra Quick-Vana https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/05/03/some-incomplete-and-swirling-thoughts/#comment-672 Wed, 07 May 2025 05:03:47 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=2226#comment-672 Chris, I appreciate your honesty and find myself struggling similarly with those who find no fault with Trump and associates. I also find myself being reminded by the Holy Spirit to “examine” and “test” myself regarding my motives in judging “them”. I am wrong in my inability to be curious about how they got to their beliefs/decisions. Hopefully, my heart will be turned toward curiosity and care!

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By: Brigid Smith https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/05/03/some-incomplete-and-swirling-thoughts/#comment-668 Mon, 05 May 2025 16:26:40 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=2226#comment-668 Thank you for naming this, I find it hard, too. I recently had a friend who is coming out of pretty extreme conservatism say, “Well I think people thought they were all criminals.” referring to mass deportations that she is horrified by… but why wasn’t she horrified years ago hearing the dehumanizing talk from Trump etc?? We are to love our enemies, right?? I seek to learn how to ask questions in moments like that that are helpful, not shaming to the other person. I want to be a safe place, but also be ready to confront anti-Christian thoughts honestly….

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