Comments on: Late to the Party https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/18/late-to-the-party/ A Global Immersion Site Mon, 24 Feb 2025 18:52:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Steve Lindley https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/18/late-to-the-party/#comment-527 Mon, 24 Feb 2025 18:52:41 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1982#comment-527 In reply to Shelby Clark.

That’s great, Shelby! In our becoming, I believe it’s vital that we celebrate how far we’ve come. (I’m pretty terrible at this.) Thanks be to God for the growth you’re able to recognize.

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By: Brigid Smith https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/18/late-to-the-party/#comment-521 Fri, 21 Feb 2025 10:40:21 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1982#comment-521 Shelby, I love your questions around reconciliation. We white folks have so many questions to ask ourselves as we try to be safe and open enough to hear from those who have been oppressed. And to actually move forward in a way that is deeply loving and gentle. (and challenging enough to ourselves)

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By: Kassandra Quick-Vana https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/18/late-to-the-party/#comment-520 Fri, 21 Feb 2025 05:10:17 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1982#comment-520 Shelby – THIS-Every time we talk about our pressing question I think to myself, “Is my pressing question the same as it was the last time I thought about/answered this?” Thank you for writing this! I feel like on any given day I can come up with 5 (or more) questions which are pressing and which I would urgently like to resolve so I can move onto the next pressing question. They seem to be multiplying faster than I can give the needed attention and emotional bandwidth toward.

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By: Justin Capener https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/18/late-to-the-party/#comment-517 Thu, 20 Feb 2025 22:38:27 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1982#comment-517 Thank you Shelby. I especially appreciated the last questions you posed:

“What do healthy boundaries in the context of reconciliation look like?”
“How do we encourage wise emotional labor when doing the work of reconciling/forgiving/peacemaking?”

For myself, it can become disheartening listening a world of news that sometimes only feels negative. “where is the hope?” is a question i’m always asking. As far as your second question, I loved reading Osheta’s “Dear White Peacemaker” as it reminded me to recognized how everyone is beloved. Without this reminder, I am afraid I would be driven to anger or hate as a tool for reconciliation rather than empathy.

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By: Shelby Clark https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/18/late-to-the-party/#comment-506 Thu, 20 Feb 2025 01:10:10 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1982#comment-506 In reply to Nate McIntyre.

Thank you for sharing the exact quote– so powerful. I’m going to write that one down too.

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By: Shelby Clark https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/18/late-to-the-party/#comment-505 Thu, 20 Feb 2025 01:09:36 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1982#comment-505 In reply to Steve Lindley.

Such a beautiful question, Steve! I see growth in my ability to be gentle with myself when I am hurting. I see an increased willingness to be authentic, messy, and incomplete… and to invite other people into that. I see so much growth around allowing all of the feelings in myself and others. I see growth in welcoming emotions as wise and neutral tutors, rather than some as good and others as bad.

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By: Steve Lindley https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/18/late-to-the-party/#comment-500 Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:56:22 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1982#comment-500 Thank you for your vulnerability and honesty here, Shelby!

I too believe Ruth’s thoughts on grappling with and being formed by our pain are powerful, important, and really challenging. There are times when I’ve experienced pain that helped to shape me, polishing away my ego, perfectionism, and dualistic thinking. And there are times when I’ve experienced pain that completely broke something inside of me.

While you acknowledge that this is an ongoing process for you, I wonder … at this point in your journey, where have you seen growth/progress/new life (whatever word you might use to describe it)?

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By: Nate McIntyre https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/18/late-to-the-party/#comment-497 Wed, 19 Feb 2025 03:23:51 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1982#comment-497 Thanks for your honest reflection Shelby! Ruth’s point about not being a stranger to pain really stuck out to me too! I wrote down that she said something like, “Grappling with pain shapes and molds us and it can be a gift in our formation.”

Boy have I found that to be true in my life. As much as I’d like to avoid pain, in hindsight I can see how it has shaped me in positive ways and how it can be used to hopefully help others. I also find that I’m drawn to people who have been through some difficult stuff and I that I can more easily trust them.

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