Comments on: Decoupling our faith & Guardrails our Team is Drafting https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/15/decoupling-our-faith/ A Global Immersion Site Thu, 20 Feb 2025 11:39:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Kelly Fassett https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/15/decoupling-our-faith/#comment-513 Thu, 20 Feb 2025 11:39:40 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1963#comment-513 In reply to Katy Cuthill.

Thanks Katy! For me, I think of self love as self care; internal efforts we make to tend to our souls and lives so that we can live the life God has called us to live. I think of self interest as focusing on the needs of me, myself and I, and not thinking about those of my neighbors; a self-orientation that doesn’t ask much of myself. I think of the distinction as the travelers that passed the injured person by rather than the good samaritan who stopped, tended to his needs and gave of his own time and resources to bring God’s care and healing. I’m curious how you’d define the distinction between self serving and self love!

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By: Kelly Fassett https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/15/decoupling-our-faith/#comment-512 Thu, 20 Feb 2025 11:34:22 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1963#comment-512 In reply to Chris Nafis.

Thanks Chris. Yes I agree that so much of Christianity is self-oriented; a personal gospel about meeting my needs, rather than a gospel that seeks to address systems and structures that are set up so only some of us might flourish. It’s a both-and gospel – Jesus came to bring both personal and social transformation. I think in our guardrails / litmus test above, we are hoping to offer personal and systemic questions so folks can lean into both sides/angles of the transformative work of the gospel.

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By: Kelly Fassett https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/15/decoupling-our-faith/#comment-511 Thu, 20 Feb 2025 11:31:11 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1963#comment-511 In reply to Brigid Smith.

Thanks so much Brigid! I appreciate your encouragement in wanting to be a part of a community like this; come on over to Boston and you can join us 🙂

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By: Kelly Fassett https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/15/decoupling-our-faith/#comment-510 Thu, 20 Feb 2025 11:29:59 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1963#comment-510 In reply to Kassandra Quick-Vana.

Thanks Kassandra! I do hope that it’s true that once we see what is broken we will work for change. I fear that the way we ‘diagnose’ brokenness can lead us to work to change that is actually counterproductive (i.e. those that are seeking to reduce national debt by improving government efficiency but actually causing greater wealth inequity). I am hoping to offer systems questions above as I think when we see the bigger picture this can be mitigated.

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By: Kassandra Quick-Vana https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/15/decoupling-our-faith/#comment-508 Thu, 20 Feb 2025 07:19:42 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1963#comment-508 Kelly, I too resonate with all the work you are doing toward the “untethering”. And it seems that once our eyes have been opened to see what is broken, we cannot be content without working toward change.
It is certainly difficult but necessary work and it is expressed well through these guardrail questions. Thank you for sharing this very helpful resource with us!

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By: Brigid Smith https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/15/decoupling-our-faith/#comment-492 Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:31:06 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1963#comment-492 This is a beautiful call to pause and hold ourselves to being one in Christ as we work and plan and dream. I love the way you look at so many angles of this in the draft guardrails. I’d love to be part of a community that was willing to be this heartfelt and loving in living out a holistic Gospel!

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By: Chris Nafis https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/15/decoupling-our-faith/#comment-489 Tue, 18 Feb 2025 01:24:30 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1963#comment-489 I was also thinking about some of these same issues during that last session – I think one of the major shifts that happened in me somewhere during my education was to begin to see the work of the church as something that is far beyond any of us individually, whereas most of Christian spirituality in America seems to be focused on our personal needs, feelings, beliefs, etc… In our questions and discussion, I found myself noticing different instincts as what Dr. Padilla-DeBorst kindled reflection on larger movements, communities, and power structures for me, it kindled personal response about how to handle stress or controversy in others. It was helpful for me to note the difference, and to gain some self-awareness about my own frame of reference (I think it would be helpful for me to remember myself, my stress, and my personal spiritual journey a bit more these days, actually). But I guess I’m trying to say that your reflection helpfully articulates this particular dynamic that is necessary in general, but especially if we are going to find ways to stretch our concern, interest, and work beyond our particular demographic groups.

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By: Claire Strunk https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/15/decoupling-our-faith/#comment-483 Mon, 17 Feb 2025 05:07:44 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1963#comment-483 Hi Kelly!
I clicked over to the Unite Boston blog post and appreciated it so much: the thoughtful reflections, and the connections to our current political climate, and call to action.
I resonate with the desire to untether Christianity from American/cultural Christianity. I agree with the impulse to press into relationships with people of color in my life. I’m also wondering how I can continue to learn from leaders like Ruth from the corners of the globe that are not northern or western.
Thanks so much for these thoughts!

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By: Katy Cuthill https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2025/02/15/decoupling-our-faith/#comment-471 Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:59:23 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1963#comment-471 I’m curious around the difference between self serving and self love. Its an area I wrestle with a lot personally and with my faith community.

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