Comments on: Musings from an airport gate. https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/07/09/musings-from-an-airport-gate/ A Global Immersion Site Thu, 25 Jan 2024 17:59:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Jen Manlief https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/07/09/musings-from-an-airport-gate/#comment-303 Wed, 12 Jul 2023 02:57:37 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1368#comment-303 In reply to Lin Preiss.

In a bit of a continuation of my comment to Hannah, these two days with Rich and Becky have been full of conversations of how we’re working to navigate the world, each in our unique contexts. They were just home in San Diego with both of their families (who I know most of the players of) and we were talking through the different dynamics at play, where they were able to push and challenge things, and where there just didn’t seem to be inroads. (and also how counseling has helped each of us process through the road blocks that are just too close to us to see objectively around). We were scheming a bit on how to “organize” and develop conversations with their different family members from each of our unique relationships with them (I’m real life and online friends with several folks on both sides, and because of Rich and my old jobs working together at the gap year, have traveled with 5-6 of them, and been invited to family gatherings on both sides. I’m basically bonus family). We’re’ conspiring on who is ready for next conversations, and that sometimes my being a bit more distance gives me more freedom to enter in with them.

This friendship, Rich, Becky and I, has always been a safe place to wrestle with things. They have always been more conservative than I am, but have followed me as I progressed more, and are always willing to challenge and push back on my ideas so we can think through them together. I think having people like this in my life is part of why the unraveling doesn’t feel… desolate. I was taught with certainty that faith/the Bible/all of it was an all or nothing proposition, and if that JUST ONE THING isn’t true, then it’s all wasted, but I haven’t found that to be true. Once I began to realize that, it all became so much less scary. I know people who have deconstructed all the way out of faith, but that is not where I have landed yet. I’m not afraid of landing there, but I’m not there now, and it doesn’t seem like that’s where I’ll land. I have too much love, admiration, and awe for Jesus and how he lived his life, and think that even if I let go of everything else, I would hold on to that.

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By: Jen Manlief https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/07/09/musings-from-an-airport-gate/#comment-302 Wed, 12 Jul 2023 02:45:05 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1368#comment-302 In reply to Hannah Lutz, NA-23.

This is a great question. I think I am paying attention- more deeply observing- the power structures and systems most immediately around me. At work, noting who holds power, who doesn’t, how people use their power or don’t- both in the office culture, where I’m part of a larger team of mostly peers, and with my team where I am the leader. I’m trying to be intentional about creating space for story and processing and sitting with and laughter and tears, and not just moving on to the next thing in efficiency. Connecting happens inefficiently. I am working to build trust with the newest member of my team, and it is taking time. it is inefficient. He likes to explain… everything, and doesn’t yet read social cues as to when something is explained enough (which probably bugs me because I am prone to do this). And connection is inefficient, so I remind myself that it is ok to wait, and in the listening I reduce the power gap a little bit.

Currently, I’m staying with my Ferreira friends in Michigan. Tomorrow I drop the parents off to head out to Greece and Istanbul and Israel (and maybe Jordan? I’m not clear on all that’s happening), but for the last two days I have been intentional about how observing how they parent each of their 4 kids uniquely, and how they each bring their unique selves to it. I notice the power plays the kids make, and when Rich and Becky choose to lay down their “power” rather than require compliance.

This is really where I’m at- looking around at how the systems I am most immediately involved in function. Understanding the dynamics and why they work or don’t. I don’t have solutions or even ideas toward solutions really yet, but more wanting to really understand the “why” things happen first.

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By: Lin Preiss https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/07/09/musings-from-an-airport-gate/#comment-300 Tue, 11 Jul 2023 18:11:31 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1368#comment-300 Jen,
I noticed myself feeling kinship, feeling less lonely, as I read your process. The LIFE that gets in the way, the familiarity of processing having to come in bits and pieces sometimes and the courage it takes to not press snooze again, but do the frightening work of relearning. I am struck by your description of truth as so dimensional, not just a cognitive realm.
I’ve been reflecting on stories of friends who have done the process of deconstruction and have been left feeling like nothing was left in the unraveling. I don’t hear that from you, which takes faith and resilience and humility and yes, courage. Your processing is courageous. I see in you such bravery to name what keeps you safe (facts, information) and to lean into the process of that very safe-space crumble around you. I am struck by your leaning into feelings and embodiment as you reorient to the new Truth as you understand it. And most of all, I am struck by the people around you who support and ground you in the process. What a gift (and props to Dr. B seeking you out. Wise woman indeed)!
I want to know more about the “leaning into the ordinary” like Hannah noted. What does that look like, how does your intentional and bit-at-a-time processing fit into that leaning? What is the relationship between your waking up to the work ahead and the leaning into the ordinary, because that I think is the key to not being lulled back to sleep by the organized Lie that keeps us comfortable and compliant, especially as white women.

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By: Hannah Lutz, NA-23 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/07/09/musings-from-an-airport-gate/#comment-299 Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:30:28 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1368#comment-299 Jen, I absolutely love this! This leaning into the ordinary is so you, and it’s so like God to be leading you into it. What does that look like for you right now, in this early stage of transformation?

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