Comments on: Putting the Matches Down https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/03/20/putting-the-matches-down/ A Global Immersion Site Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:21:57 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Lin Preiss https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/03/20/putting-the-matches-down/#comment-263 Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:21:57 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1269#comment-263 Oh what rich conversation. Your words are eloquent, honest and rich Jen, and your wrestling, oh so real. I have been weighing the TIME piece that Jer and Brandon mentioned, alongside the people and the urgency as I listen and read and reflect. I was also struck by your description of your own evolution from “seeking understanding, but not belonging,” to now finding it seems, so much belonging as your horizons are less controlled as you immerse yourself into the lives and stories of the everyday of people. I just finished listening to the Global Immersion podcast about gun violence (highly recommend) and Mike of RAWtools stated,”When you pat attention to people, it significantly increases their life expectancy.” Jen, I hear you paying attention to people (including your own self-needs). Can you reflect more on how that paying attention influences the life expectancy, and life quality, of the day to day, and the macro-policy-power world you are engaging with?

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By: Jer Swigart https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/03/20/putting-the-matches-down/#comment-256 Fri, 24 Mar 2023 14:33:03 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1269#comment-256 In reply to Jen Manlief.

Yes. So convicting to read your reflections on learning to sit in the ache, not bright-side it away, and embracing lament. This seems to be such an underdeveloped muscle for many of us. I’d love to know if and how those you’re serving are teaching you about lament.

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By: Jer Swigart https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/03/20/putting-the-matches-down/#comment-255 Fri, 24 Mar 2023 14:30:09 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1269#comment-255 In reply to Brandon Bleek.

And why are violence and injustice so easy, efficient, and generationally destructive?

Thanks for offering this, Brandon. It strengthens my resolve for the slow, communal work of joining God in the undoing and remaking. It’s work that’s worth our lives.

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By: Brandon Bleek https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/03/20/putting-the-matches-down/#comment-249 Fri, 24 Mar 2023 03:30:24 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1269#comment-249 This line you wrote:
“It’s so hard to reconcile the idea that real change takes time with the knowledge that the time it takes costs deeply the people who need the change most.”
Everything good takes time… Why is that? Why does justice, peacemaking, and about everything else that is a path towards healing and wholeness take time. Beautiful writing and thoughts Jen. You have my mind spinning!

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By: Jen Manlief https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/03/20/putting-the-matches-down/#comment-248 Thu, 23 Mar 2023 23:36:05 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1269#comment-248 In reply to Jer Swigart.

It depends on the day and where my head and my heart are, honestly. I do have some places where I am “doing” things built into my life. I volunteer weekly at Peer Seattle, which is a peer model recovery org that focuses on the LGBTQ+ community- I just sit at the front desk and check people in and chat with them, but it is encouraging to me to see people who are actively seeking recovery in their lives. It gives me hope that the folks I’m working with can move forward- that it is a possibility. Having places that help me feel hope is something that is protective to keep me from falling super deep into despair.

But also, I’m learning that there is a value to sitting in the ache, and not trying to bright-side my way out of it. I’m learning lament, and how to move through it and let it fuel my work, but having boundaries so that it doesn’t walk it’s way right down the path to destructive behaviors. (current bad-day solution behaviors are: buying things off instagram ads, numbing with familiar TV shows, processed foods). I do have a few friends who are also in this specific work, and so a good rant session about all of the ways the world doesn’t work with people who are in it can be a helpful way out of ditches.

I find that checklists and organizing and tangible work can be an antidote to the overwhelm- but it’s also easy to get focused on things that can be band-aids, because it feels better, and not get back to the work of the slow, incremental change. I probably swing back and forth more than I’d like, but maybe one day I’ll have the elusive “right balance” of action and system work that gets things done, keeps me grounded and centered, and is effective.

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By: Jer Swigart https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/03/20/putting-the-matches-down/#comment-247 Thu, 23 Mar 2023 23:04:51 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1269#comment-247 Jen. Thank you for this. This line, in particular, struck me: “It’s so hard to reconcile the idea that real change takes time with the knowledge that the time it takes costs deeply the people who need the change most.” This is where I struggle as well. I appreciate the notion that you set down the matches and get back to work…but what do you do with the urgency…with the ache? What do you turn to when grant writing doesn’t feel like enough?

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By: Jennifer Foltz https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/03/20/putting-the-matches-down/#comment-245 Thu, 23 Mar 2023 12:50:50 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1269#comment-245 Jen, you are a gifted writer, I felt your heart; the love and frustration for the arena you are working within. I can completely relate especially to watching the ones you know God loves be treated as less than. I am also inspired that you are using your power and privilege to work to create change. For me, knowing this work is a calling and a marathon, not a sprint helps me to deal with some frustrations. Keep it up, sister, you are doing great things!

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By: Jen Manlief https://joh.globalimmerse.org/2023/03/20/putting-the-matches-down/#comment-244 Tue, 21 Mar 2023 02:28:29 +0000 https://joh.globalimmerse.org/?p=1269#comment-244 I have no idea what the Elementor #1269 is, but I also couldn’t figure out how to make it go away.

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